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Jackie

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Re the exchange below, the point I wanted to with my response to t'man below is that impressionable minds are being affected by the rhetoric around them and the rhetoric gets translated into some horrible acts. My grand nephew and the boys who took advantage of the drunk girl, kids all, have absorbed messages like t'man's about how feminists are nasty and vindictive.

Mr The Fool, I will look at the links you posted and respond later.

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I swear, no matter how badly some lose their moral compass, no matter how nasty and vindictive and hounding those liberals and feminists behave, I would never call for their ban and I would be sad to see them go.

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Last week my sister's 16 yr old grandson asked her if my early 30's daughter (did you catch all those relationships?) is a feminist. He says he doesn't think he likes feminists because they're angry and they go around accusing people of rape and stuff. At sixteen he thinks this. In a city where there was a recent high profile case of a teenage girl killing herself because photos were passed around social media of a guy her age (one of several who took advantage of the situation) screwing her from behind while she was drunk and puking.

So t'man, you can feel proud that the future generation is coming along nicely and learning to hate feminists at an early age.

Sorry (not) for getting personal again Derek.


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Yes, it is all my fault that the teenage girl killed herself, that the world is gone mad, and that feminism gets a bad rap.

All my fault.

You should feel good about your amazing detective work.




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"A teenage girl killing herself because photos were passed around social media " is NOT merely a feminist issue ffs. It's an issue of common human moral decency, respect for privacy, respect for individual autonomy, bullying, cruelty, ingrained puritanism and more.

Why does feminism insist on hijacking something which would be is a tragedy full stop?

If you insist on taking possession of this tragedy in the name of feminism, how do you classify these cases below? Are they men's rights issues? Meninism?

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/17-year-old-GAA-player-kills-himself-after-Facebook-prank.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/family-teen-who-killed-himself-after-embarrassing-video-left-suicide-note/

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-08-16/scottish-police-investigate-claims-teen-killed-himself-after-receiving-online-blackmail-threats/

If 16-year-olds are learning to hate feminism maybe the problem is what feminism has turned into?
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Walter: Thanks Jackie. You did the right thing in trying to take the discussion to a calmer arena.

I can see where you’re coming from. Your comment doesn’t resemble Turtleman’s possibly offensive invective.

Though on closer inspection, I can see why he took offence to it, as you loosely attach some blame for the horrific actions of some people to his expressed view of feminism. It’s as offensive as his blowoff, actually. I don’t think you were trying to smear him, but it’s a good example of what I meant about criticism not being accurate or qualified.

The story itself is horrific - a girl being raped in public. Pretty much everyone here might have related to a discussion about misogyny and ‘rape culture‘, had the initial net not been cast so wide so as to include critics of ‘feminism’ and, by the reactions I mentioned, feminism itself.

Cheers

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This is an interesting point - that blame was loosely attached, that the net was widely cast - because a lot of the acrimony in these discussion stems from men thinking they are being accused of things that other men have done.
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