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"Attacking 911 dissenters"

http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2008/04/commondreams-common-blunders-attacking.html

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9/11 "Conspiracies" and the Defactualisation of Analysis
How Ideologues on the Left (ZNet etc) and Right Theorise Vacuously to Support Baseless Supposition 

NAFEEZ MOSSADEQ

http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq37.html
http://www.mediamonitors.net/mosaddeq37.html#_edn1
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2015 AE911Truth European TourNewbury, England

AE911Truth founder and architect Richard Gage's seventh presentation on Europe Tour 2015 was held at Newbury Town Hall on Saturday, the 25th of April...

A questioner highlighted the discrepancy in the energy required between an organic, natural structural failure of the three World Trade Centre towers and what appears to have been the controlled demolition of those buildings. Gage agreed there is a "tremendous energy differentiation" between, on the one hand, "gravitational potential energy" and, on the other, the amount of energy required to "shatter the structural steel, pulverize 90,000 tons of concrete, turn tons of metal into molten lava, and create heat clouds ten times the volume of the building in seconds."

Another attendee inquired how much time it would have taken the Twin Towers to fall if there had been a natural collapse and a resulting "pancake effect," as the US government maintains happened. According to Gage, the consensus among scientists who are uncompromised by government pressure is 30 to 90 seconds — a significantly longer time than the mere 12 seconds observed by on-the-scene witnesses and video cameras.

One man in the audience asked how it was that his 12 year-old daughter, who has been studying basic physics in school, understood that the near free-fall collapse of the three towers was "impossible" because "there's no resistance there" — and yet some professional physicists still defend the official premise that fires caused the destruction. The psychological explanation, responded Gage, is that "when some people recognize their worldview is under threat, they . . . come up with irrational thoughts, and they express them as if they're rational. Or they lie altogether. I've seen both."

Someone else mentioned the Overton window, a political theory that explains why certain ideas are considered worthy of becoming public policy (allowed inside the window), while other ideas are shunned (kept outside the window). Because "the Establishment" decides which ideas to include or exclude and because the mainstream media now enforces that window more strictly than ever, 9/11 is on the taboo list.

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Digital Journal /  "American Institute of Architects to debate looking at WTC 7 collapse"

http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/politics/american-institute-of-architects-to-reconsider-wtc-7-collapse/article/432237#tab=comments&sc=0

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"If Jet Fuel Can Melt Steel, what are Jet Engines Made Of?"

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153353302428894&set=p.10153353302428894&type=1&theater


Tom Engelhardt / '911: An Explosion out of 'Towering Inferno'

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/118775/9_11_an_explosion_out_of_the_towering_inferno_


 

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"The involvement of Saudi Arabia in 911 - Bob Graham and the missing 28 pages of the 911 Commission Report"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-alleged-involvement-of-saudi-arabia-in-911-bob-graham-and-the-missing-28-pages-of-the-911-commission-report/5448906

"28 Pages of Misdirection on the role of Saudi Arabia"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/911-truth-and-the-joint-congressional-inquiry-28-pages-of-misdirection-on-the-role-of-saudi-arabia/5475380

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"It is now commonly assumed among the public that the 28 pages in some way implicate the Saudi government in the events of 9/11, probably by financing the OCT-alleged hijackers. But consider the not unlikely possibility that the real players in 9/11 were not the Saudis, but rather the neocons and the people behind them. If they were looking for a way to deflect increasing public doubt about the OTC, blaming the Saudis would be an excellent choice... Some of us in the 9TM consider the 28 Pages campaign to be just such a classical misdirection, with the Saudis playing the role of a distracting magician’s assistant. A quick risk/benefit analysis of this approach shows why... "
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As the 14th anniversary of the 11-9-2001 war-trigger event approaches, whistle-blower
Kevin Ryan outlines Fourteen Facts:

http://digwithin.net/2015/08/08/fourteen-facts/

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"Professor awarded $250 000 to study 'vice epistemology': why people think 911 was an inside job"

http://scoopfeed.net/2015/08/23/professor-awarded-250000-to-study-vice-epistemology-why-people-think-911-was-an-inside-job/
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Interesting videos  including research on thyroid and other cancers resulting from the nuclear demolition of the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center.
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I think this is disinformation, most likely spread with the intent (somewhere) of discrediting genuine research, or just getting clicks.

There are several peer reviewed papers which support the demolition hypothesis, some in prestigious journals, but no serious evidence of a nuclear component - something that would be easily detectable. 

If you want to see what genuine research looks like, check this latest by James Corbett about the money trail. Interviews with people actually involved, press reports, peer reviewed articles, official statements, a bit of digging; i.e. not solely some guy's opinion and some unsubstantiated statements:
https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-308-911-trillions-follow-the-money/
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I agree, the convoluted money trails and missing millions are a big red flag
didn't know what to think about this nuclear device idea
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Hi Madeleine
Important to research and draw your own conclusions. It's become clear there are two so-called "truth movements". One is a cautious science-based research movement that offers solid references. The other is noisier and tends to muddy the waters by promoting poorly-substantiated  "space beam weapons", "nukes" and other exotic explanations for the rapid pulverisation of structure through the path of greatest resistance.

Why use a nuke when a nano-tech invention, advertised in arms industry brochures, offers more bang for your buck and is available in sol-gel form, allowing for easy application on steel columns? [1]

If "nukes" had been used, there'd have been unmistakeable clues, like:
(i) evidence of widespread radiation
(ii) evidence of radiation sickness
(iii) evidence of melted glass
(iv) telltale chemical signatures (tritium etc)

A study by Lioy et al report that radioactivity from thorium, uranium, actinium
series and other radionuclides is at or near the background level for WTC dust [2]

Also,
a nuke generates an electro-magnetic pulse (EMP)  that would knock out most electronics near the blast site. There would have been a risk that EMP from the first nuclear explosion at WTC2  would have disrupted the control of the second blast at WTC1, as physicist Steven Jones commented:

"A high risk strategy for an already risky undertaking. In tests with nuclear bombs, both the US and Russia
established that a strong EMP accompanies nukes, and that this EMP is very disruptive to electronics.
W
ere all radios, cell-phones and video cameras in the vicinity knocked out (useless) AFTER the
first Tower came down?
No. "


No evidence exists for nuke use [2], as backed up by data from the US Environmental Protection Agency and a team from University of California Davis [3]

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[1] http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/explosives_evidence_timeline.html

[2] "Hard Evidence Repudiates the Hypothesis that Mini-Nukes were used on the WTC towers" 

- Dr Steven E Jones Jan 2007.  http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters.html [Scroll down to last link on page]
or PDF: http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/a/Hard-Evidence-Rebudiates-the-Hypothesis-that-Mini-Nukes-were-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf

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"While many pieces of evidence may support a hypothesis it logically takes
only one soundly established contradictory piece of evidence to require the
abandonment of a hypothesis. In the list above, we have not one but several
pieces of evidence which contradict the mini-nukes-at-WTC-Towers hypothesis".
- Steven E Jones


[3] The paper published at "The Environmentalist" points to toxic chemicals, which may account for the fact WTC victims suffer a higher percentage of cancers than general population >

"Environmental Anomalies at the WTC" by Jones, Ryan et al
http://911encyclopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Publication:20121005101845

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Abstract: Investigators monitoring air quality at the World Trade Center, after the September 11th attacks, found extremely high levels of volatile organic chemicals as well as unusual species that had never been seen before in structure fires. Data collected by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency indicate striking spikes in levels of benzene, styrene, and several other products of combustion. These spikes occurred on specific dates in October and November 2001, and February 2002. Additionally, data collected by researchers at the University of California Davis showed similar spikes in the levels of sulfur and silicon compounds, and certain metals, in aerosols. To better explain these data, as well as the unusual detection of 1,3-diphenylpropane, the presence of energetic nanocomposites in the pile at Ground Zero is hypothesized.
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Hi Margo,
thanks for your reply and links

there seems to be enough investigative, proven, scientific evidence by experts in their field to call for a  Grand Jury
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Media aiding and abetting pseudo science

http://skeptopathy.com/wp/?p=341
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Forget for one moment everything you’ve been told about September 11, 2001. 9/11 was a crime. And as with any crime, there is one overriding imperative that detectives must follow to identify the perpetrators: follow the money. This is an investigation of the 9/11 money trail.

For the mp3 audio of this podcast as well as a hyperlinked transcript, please go here:
https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=16167

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Why Saudi Ties to 911 Mean U.S. ties to 911 (Kevin Ryan):
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those calls focus on the question of hijacker financing and omit the most interesting links between the 9/11 attacks and Saudi Arabia—links that implicate powerful people in the United States. Here are twenty examples.

http://digwithin.net/2015/09/27/saudi-ties/

And Jon Gold's article covers some other points:

http://911blogger.com/news/2015-01-22/you-can-t-point-finger-saudi-arabia-and-not-have-5-fingers-pointing-back-us
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This is Morgan O. Reynolds, professor emeritus at Texas A&M University and former director of the Criminal Justice Centre at the National Centre for Policy Analysis headquarters in Dallas, TX.

Reynolds was the former Chief Economist under George W. Bush — he’d been on the job one week when the attacks happened on September 11.

And even this guy says it was an inside job.

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Interesting, thanks madeleine.

Have a look at this, too: "Pipelines to 911"

http://www.courtfool.info/en_Pipelines_to_9_11.htm
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